The "afterlife"

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> lol. I love it when people show up to a party that is dead
> and gone and try to get in on the argument even though said
> argument has been over for a while. Good job dude!

The reason he showed up is because you wanted to remind yourself of how dumb you're being.

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> Dude, you lost the argument. Accept it and move on. You're
> not improving your image. In fact, this whole situation
> makes you look kind of... emo, for lack of a better word.

No, that doesn't describe him well... Jaduss was talking about quantum reality and applying it to the topic. It seems that "Punjman" didn't get it... After Jaduss would say something, he'd miss the point, or at least demonstrate that he didn't know, with an unwitty comment often substantiating Jaduss' previous post. I'm not trying to instigate flames or anything, just giving a more justified explanation than "emo."
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> The reason he showed up is because you wanted to remind
> yourself of how dumb you're being.

Hmm... I thought you were actually trying to be insulting in the other thread with the awful insults, but it seems this is really the way you do business.

Sad. Poor poor baby. Highschool must have been brutal with that kind of self defense. You have my pity. And I'm laughing at you.
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> Hmm... I thought you were actually trying to be insulting in
> the other thread with the awful insults, but it seems this
> is really the way you do business.

> Sad. Poor poor baby. Highschool must have been brutal with
> that kind of self defense. You have my pity. And I'm
> laughing at you.

Its not a defense mechanism, you criticizing it is. Quit projecting your problems onto me. Then again, I'd hate to live in your world if you actually became self-aware, oh man.
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> Its not a defense mechanism, you criticizing it is. Quit
> projecting your problems onto me. Then again, I'd hate to
> live in your world if you actually became self-aware, oh
> man.

dude.. stop, I almost choked on my drink with that laugh. Really, you're pitiful.
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> dude.. stop, I almost choked on my drink with that laugh.
> Really, you're pitiful.

If you only knew how dumb you're making yourself look, you'd laugh. Let me put it this way: you're scared as hell, and that's why you won't stop responding with pitiful, baseless insults to ideas which scare the crap out of you because you're scared of your own shadow.

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> If you only knew how dumb you're making yourself look, you'd
> laugh. Let me put it this way: you're scared as hell, and
> that's why you won't stop responding with pitiful, baseless
> insults to ideas which scare the crap out of you because
> you're scared of your own shadow.

lol. Dude, you just described yourself. Seriously.

Seriously.
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> lol. Dude, you just described yourself. Seriously.
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> Seriously.
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The funny part is, I KNOW WHY I'M DOING THIS, YOU DON'T.
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> The funny part is, I KNOW WHY I'M DOING THIS, YOU DON'T.

Of course I do. You're a nerd with very little ammo left in his rifle. Hell I've even been feeding you lines in the other thread.

It's sad really.
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> It's sad really.
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/me laughs at the irony of this situation.
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> Of course I do. You're a nerd with very little ammo left in
> his rifle. Hell I've even been feeding you lines in the
> other thread.
>
> It's sad really.

Let me put it this way: everything in the universe is one consciousness. View this entire conversation as you thinking to yourself.

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> Let me put it this way: everything in the universe is one
> consciousness. View this entire conversation as you thinking
> to yourself.

I'd rather not, because then that would mean you are me - and I am in o way a scraggly haired virgin who is longwinded.

lol one conciousness. OK Locutus. See you back at the cube.
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> I'd rather not, because then that would mean you are me -
> and I am in o way a scraggly haired virgin who is
> longwinded.

> lol one conciousness. OK Locutus. See you back at the cube.
>

Yeah seriously, you're god. It's just that you suck at being God, that's why the world is so fucked up. There's another consciousness, above the one you have right now. You're just afraid of it. That's why you think we "die".
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Most humans are obsessed with their mortality. Fear of death and nonexistence is part of an intense evolutionary design towards self-preservation, which paradoxically includes a fear of ultimate death (an inevitable end to life). One thing is certain, whether or not our consciousness continues past death, our connection with Earth as we know it is permanently severed. This fear of death is often quelled by legacy (children, grandchildren, life's work etc).

Ultimately, I do believe in the continuance of my consciousness after life... but this alone isn't enough to end a fear of death. I fear early death, where I have absolutely no fear of growing old and dying. I fear death without legacy, not "being famous", but leaving a passion behind that is significant enough to offer an ending contribution to humanity. I find your points interesting. People forget sometimes that these concepts are highly limited by our own ability to communicate them. I hope to have a continued consciousness, that the mind is simply a vessel for the "soul".
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> SPOILERS: After you die is exactly like before you are
> concieved.

There's no such thing as death; you just think other people die because you're insane.

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“It is often said that before you die your life passes before your eyes. It is in fact true. It's called living.” - Terry Pratchett
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Yeah, sorry for necroposting, but here's my take on the afterlife.

There is none, unless you consider oblivion an afterlife. Conciousness is simply a result of chemical and electrical activity in the brain.

A very simple way to prove this is to take something like LSD; in high amounts, you start getting synesthesia, which means the sensory inputs going into the brain start getting crossed. You can literally taste light, see sound, etc, and the complete shattering of normal reality can be disturbing, to say the least. Thought processes also become radically different, and the stream of conciousness takes on completely different forms.

Once you see how your mind and reality itself can be percieved in such a radically different way from adding one chemical into the machinary of the brain, you have a hard time not believing that your mind is simply a biochemical phenomenon.

Also, I have a brother who's went into a couple of diabetic comas. During these times, he said it was just like he closed his eyes, and an instant later he was in the hospital. Since the brain basically shuts down all but fundamental processes in a coma, I imagine this is exactly what death is like; slipping into nothingness. As Crazy_MYKL said, this would be exactly like what it was like for you before you were born. Try thinking of that for a while.

Which, really, isn't so bad, I would think, because it's not like you can reflect on the subject and decide whether it's good or it sucks after the fact. :p
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There is none, unless you consider oblivion an afterlife.
> Conciousness is simply a result of chemical and electrical
> activity in the brain.

Hahahaha, you are shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.
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